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Saltmarshe

Saltemersc 1086 (Domesday Book). 'Salty or brackish marsh'. Old English salt + mersc.
'A Dictionary of English Place-Names', Oxford University Press

Saltmarshe Hall The High (only) Street and the river Touching grave

Saltmarshe Hall, set in a beautifully wooded surround, is typical of an estate landscape. Although completely moulded by man, the house mellows with the yellow cover of rape blossom and the varied shades of green leaf and creates a rarely seen haven on the lower Ouse, as most trees have been felled by farmers.

Visitor Comments

Posted by janni stewart at 12/03/2008 06:51
who built saltmarshe hall; when was it built; where can its
history be found?
Posted by Norma Lunn Filipkowski at 14/03/2008 13:33
Who was the owner and family who lived in Saltmarshe Hall during the 1860's to early 1900's? Is this now a hall that one could tour? I am looking for the name Mary Smart who was employed there sometime during 1860 on maybe a little before.
Mary was my great grandma, am most anxious to find family members in the area.
Posted by Fiona Moate at 23/04/2008 22:52
It was built by the Saltmarshe family in 1825 architects Prichett & Watson with additions by JB & W Atkinson.

Phillip Saltmarshe was the last member of the family and he had no heirs, he died in the early 1970s and the house was sold. It is still a private house and I have heard the gardens are open to the public as part of the "Yellow Book" scheme.

There is an entry about it in Pevsner's "Buildings of England "series "York & East Riding of Yorkshire" 1995 edition.
Posted by Norma Lunn Filipkowski at 27/05/2008 14:47
Thank you Fiona Moate, I am glad you read my question. Do you have any idea how I can get more info. on my great grandma Mary Smart? I am living in the U.S., feel like I am somewhat at a disadvantage but with computers it may make it easy to trace.

Norma Lunn Filikowski
Posted by p dog at 07/06/2008 12:30
my family live in the two cottages on the saltmarshe estate that were occupied by the coachman and the butlers families the hall that now stands is the second one being built inthe early 19th century the first was a wholly smaller affair and was 2oo meters nearer the village and river this was used as a school in the 1800's .the saltmarshe family can trace its ancestry right back to domesday and have been residents in the hall's up till 1970 all sorts of charcters can lay claim to the name ranging from judges to mad old men with 50 cats or more typical aristo's one might say.We are ourselves unsure of the actual date of the cottages but think they are about 250yrs and its hard to pin them down in the census's as there are no names or numbers and before the butlers proffesion is named we cant identify the houses anyway i know this is scant info but i am pushed for time at the mo but if you would like to know more i would be happy to return any mail there is also a whole book on the saltmarshe family written by captain phillip saltmarshe but alas can only be viewed by visiting goole library as its in the archives and cannot be removed yours sincerly patrick
Posted by Duncan at 10/06/2008 14:15
With scant info and taking a long shot their is a family of 'Smarts' listed on the 1861 Census in Portington, which is approx 5 miles from Saltmarshe.

Thomas Smart, 42, Agricultural salesman
Jane Smart, 39, Wife
? Smart, 11, daugh
Mary Smart, 9, daugh
Alice Smart, 7, daugh
Bentley Smart, 6, son
Elizabeth Smart, 3, daugh
Sarah Smart, 1, daugh

If you want to research you could use www.1901censusonline.com
Posted by Norma Lunn Filipkowski at 10/06/2008 15:35
Thank you so much P-Dog and Duncan whoever you are for the information. I hope to be in England next year and possibly can make a trip to the Goole Library. I am new at this so feel like it is an ardous task. My Great Grandma's second name was Ellen, employed at Salt Marsh Hall. If only I could at least find some ancestors who had information. My cousin Jack Day who now lives in Hook (Mary was his grandma, his mother was Charlotte Day, formerly Charlotte Wood). My grandma was Sarah (Sally Outwin) Mary Smart was of course her Mother.
Posted by barry sweeting at 12/08/2008 18:38
hi there i have many fond memories of saltmarshe skelton and laxton as a young lad i was brought in one of the railway houses at kilpin crossing near delves no electric no tapwater but happpy days remember having to go to saltmarshe hall to get a fishing permit from capt philllip saltmarshe a rather ecccentric loooking old man he used to frighten us boys i remember him driving a white triumph vittesse car left the area when iwas twenty but still got family in skelton would like to hear from anyone who remebers me
Posted by Judy Hunt at 21/08/2008 22:40
My mother-in-law, Elise McLaughlin-Hunt, was born in Leeds in 1909, at age 15 (1924) she went to work in Saltmarshe Hall, said she scrubbed floors on her hands and knees.
Posted by Duncan at 25/09/2008 22:30
I am carrying out research into my family history but have drawn a blank on part of it. My grandmother's birth certificate shows her mother as Sarah Barrett, Kitchen Maid at Saltmarshe Hall. The year was 1913.

Does anyone know of said Sarah Barrett or where I may find further records of the servants of the day. 1901 Census shows no record of likely candidates.

Many thanks in advance for any offerings.
Posted by RICHARD BARRATT at 05/11/2008 22:18
try the spelling barrAtt when searching my family were living in laxton and metham around 1900 on, no knowlege of sarah, sorry
Posted by Duncan at 22/01/2009 14:04
Thanks for your comments Richard. Sorry for not responding sooner but have been 'off site' for a while. I'll do some more research as suggested and see if anything turns up. In any of your research I don't supose you've come across Harry or May Edith Cape?
Posted by patrick at 08/02/2009 15:08
duncan if you can get into goole library, upstairs in the archive dep all census records are kept on micro film and i have seen all maids and staff for the hall at saltmarshe listed as i was looking for the butlers name because of the connection to our cottages. i will look for you if you can't get there only i don't know how long it will be before i get a chance
Posted by Pojojuniper at 11/05/2009 19:55
Re: Judy Hunt's comment of 21/08/2008: Elsie Hunt, nee McLaughlin was my grandmother. Although she did sometimes use "Elsie Mary Langdale McLoughlin", nowhere do I find any indication that she ever used a hyphenated version of McLaughlin-Hunt after her wedding. Additionally, I do not have her original birth certificate, but her passports state that she was born in Laxton, not Leeds.
Posted by sue roberts at 15/05/2009 00:18
hi my dad was a footman at saltmarsh hall in the early 40s i think, his family lived in saltmarsh his name was harry wainman his mother agness & auntie edde
Posted by Sheila at 27/05/2009 13:02
My great grandparents ( Henry and Eliza Rabey ) worked on the Saltmarshe estate in 1901 at the Dairy. Their daughter ( Mary Jane Rabey ) worked at the Hall, although I cannot find any evidence. Does anyone know where the house keeping records went when the house was sold ? I would be very interested to see them as they are usually a fairly accurate record. My mother Myrtle Scarrow (now Wurr) born 1921 was named after one of the Saltmarshe family who died in 1918. She has many memories of the area in the 20's and 30's
Posted by Wendy Hall at 14/06/2009 20:34
The Saltmarshe Records could well be at The Treasure House, Beverley or The Bortwick Institute at York. Both of these places holds the records for this area, it just depends where the records were deposited or they could have been kept privately. I think if anywhere it would be The Treasure House.
For anyone wanting information on Family History the Goole Times weekly local newspaper has a Readers Section and would welcome anyone wanting to seek information etc.
www.gooletimes.co.uk
I was brought up locally so know these places very well, still local in Goole.
Posted by matthew Foster at 06/07/2009 14:31
My grandfather was evacuated there to live with his grandparents during WWII. His grandfather was Richard Atkinson who was the chaufer there and Alice Atkinson who did the laundry. They all lived at Laundry cottage on the estate.
Posted by Katie Brignall at 29/07/2009 18:33
The last picture on this header is the grave of My Great Grandad Bertie Brignall, he lived at Corner Cottage and worked this land, he also worked at Saltmarshe Hall, My dad Ivan now owns the remaining acre of land which my Great Grandfather use to rent, his ashes are buried there, thats where he wanted to be, in the tranquil setting of Fox Lane.
Posted by Duncan at 09/10/2009 14:11
Thanks Patrick for your comments all that time ago. I've just been back to this site for the first time in a lot of months and so am playing catch up.

For those interested, I tracked down Sarah Barratt (well done Richard) on the 1911 census aged 24 and working at Saltmarshe Hall. She was born in Pattingham, Shropshire, not far from Wolverhampton. I've also found that she died in Goole in 1917 aged 30yrs. The hunt continues!

For those looking for names of servants etc, the 1911 census for Philip Saltmarshe lists all those at the house including William Dawson(Footman) and Charles Parker (House Boy)
Posted by matthew foster at 20/10/2009 18:26
Has anyone got any old photos of the staff or hall?
Posted by P Newstone at 24/11/2009 10:28
To Matthew Foster I remember Richard 'Dick' Atkinson as a child. I believe he was a chauffeur not to the Saltmarshes but to the Schofields on the nearby Sandhall estate. Yes there is a Laundry Cottage at Sandhall, he lived there with his wife. My daughter rented the cottage for a while a few years ago. The old washhouse was still intact and it had to be preserved as it was years before although not in use
Posted by John Jessop at 27/11/2009 20:38
I recall the old railway crossing cottages which Barry Sweeting mentions. There were two and the other one was occupied by Lewis Coulthard and his family. I know Lew worked for the railways and operated the crossing gates but I think he also or maybe later worked on the swing bridge over the Ouse. The earth to build the railway embankments was dug out leaving a great hole which filled up with water and was sometimes used for swimming and also for angling. There used to be some huge stuffed Pike in glass cases in the Ashes Playing Field Pavilion in Howden which were caught in the ponds (known locally as Skelton Delphs). After Colonel Saltmarshe died the Delphs were made into a nature reserve and the local kids lost an amenity.
The dairy farm behind Saltmarshe Hall is presently occupied by a branch of the Sweeting family who own and farm much of the old estate now. I don't think this is the same family as Barry would belong to?
Posted by John Jessop at 15/12/2009 20:20
Does anyone recall a ship going aground in the river at Saltmarshe near the hall? I have a recollection of cycling from Howdendyke with my father to look at it as a youngster. It was best viewed from just along the bank from the gate into the hall gardens which was located at the end of the village. When we saw it there was quite a gathering of locals observing it. There were a couple of ropes from it to trees in the gardens to stop it drifting around with the tides. This must have been in the 1950s I think but I cant recall the name of the vessel.
Posted by Robert Ward at 19/12/2009 12:24
Probably the SS Aire which collided in the river with the German collier Helene B. Schupp at Saltmarshe on October 6th 1958.
Posted by John Jessop at 23/12/2009 15:14
I had a faint idea the grounded ship I recalled was some years earlier than 1958. Maybe around 1953 or 54 but its only a dim memory now. Maybe there were two incidents?
If not its a hazy memory.
Posted by paul train at 15/02/2010 12:29
opening of new history library hull. source of info from hull packet paper for relevant dates. intriguing mystery highlighted by new history section. which is in possession of a single left handed duelling glove donated by saltmarshe family. dates aprox 1804 ? reputed to have belonged to philip saltmarshe also a captain 2 military men fought .blood spilt but whose? all i can find is that philip was dead by 1807. when his youngest daughter anne catherine died dont know her age .but were other daughters hence youngest . where the saltmarshe family living before 1825?
Posted by Fiona Moate at 09/03/2010 20:41
My Grandfather Fred Barrow was a manager at AHL when the ship sank. I have a lot of the photographs he took. When I was little (I was born the year after the calamity() he used to take me in Saltmarshe Park & show me the chain scars on the trees there. The story of the loss of the ship, the life of one of the crew & the fact it was exploded fascinated me.
Posted by phil at 17/05/2010 00:46
my Grandma on my fathers side was an upstairs maid at Saltmarshe Hall I think around 1920. would love to see any photos from that period. her name was Betty Backhouse she was a farmers daughter from skelton....also my mother (dorothy wilkinson) lived at the railway crossing (the triangle) in the house next door to sweetings when she was about 10 years old. my mum and dad have an edition of the book writen by captain saltmarshe, the only other one i think is in Goole library...i think the records from the hall were all sold in the auction in the 70s. my dad has a salmon rod given to him by philip saltmarshe, i remember going to pick it up with him. i still live in Skelton
Posted by Lesley at 16/12/2010 15:47
Can anyone tell me a date of when the cottages in Saltmarsh were built?
I refer to the two cottages (after Joiners Cottage) when you come out of Saltmarshe Park along the river side as though you are going to Laxton. I am having difficulty with the insurance co; who are insisting on knowing a dfinitive date before I can insure with them, all records my mother holds are vague
Posted by Victor Hickman at 03/02/2011 11:14
We attended the sale of the contents of Saltmarshe Hall early in the 1970's, and we purchased amongst other things the Library Chair belonging to Captain Philip Saltmarshe. Could anyone please tell me what was the exact date of the contents sale, and the name of the company who conducted the sale? My wife (who made the purchase!) re-covered the chair and it is still in superb condition and in constant use today. Any help with these details would be gratefully received.

victor.hickman1@btopenworld.com
Posted by R Barker at 01/03/2011 12:51
The Punch Bowl - Saltmarshe

Hi, I'm trying to locate where the Punch Bowl pub would have been in Saltemarshe in the 1820s. I have seen from the Baines trade directory that my ancestor, Thomas Barker, was the landlord in 1823 and I would like to find out more about him as I suspect this line of the family originates in the Saltmarshe/Howden area.
Posted by Helena Whitbread at 13/03/2011 10:41
On 3 June 1817, Emma Rawson of Halifax married Christopher Saltmarshe of Saltmarshe, Esq. He died 15 October 1852. She died 15 July 1834. Can anyone tell me what trade the Saltmarshes were in? I presume they were in trade because, in the research I am doing, there is a mention of his warehouses on the river banks.
Posted by Phil at 07/05/2011 21:13
I was booking clerk at Staddlethorpe railway station now called Gilberdyke nearly 50 years ago and Captain Philip (spelt with one 'l' ) the last of his line, was still alive and living at the Hall. The family originally came over to England with William the Conqueror and the family settled on the banks of the River Ouse. The Saltmarshe family were important military figures some being generals etc., Captain Philip was ADC to the Governor General of Australia in his early career. The railway station at Saltmarshe is actually in Laxton village part of the contract of the Saltmarshe family in selling the land to the then railway company was that the station had to bear the name of the Saltmarshe family and the Saltmarshe family had the right to have any train stopped especially at Saltmarshe for them to board, usually one of the London trains. Captain Philip's father the old Colonel would inspect several compartments to decide where he was going to sit before boarding often taking several minutes to do so.
Posted by Shirley Spann nee Richardson at 04/06/2011 18:25
My Aunt and Uncle, Hannah and George Pratt lived and worked at Saltmarshe Hall, back in the 1950's . They lived in a cottage on the estate and this is the one and only time I remember seeing my Grandmother Hannah Richardson , descendant of Matthew Brunyee ( 1605-1645 ) . My mother, father and two brothers and sisters all went up for a holiday and alighted at a small railway station ( Saltmarshe ) ? and walked to the cottage where my aunt and uncle lived with their large family. Happy memories.
Posted by Corby Bunting at 05/05/2012 09:05
Does anyone have Norwood/Bealby connectios?
I am searching for a huband of Mary Norwood born 1736 in Saltmarshe Father Michael and mother Mary Bealby. The husband's name was Thomas Cook.Where was Thomas born? Thomas and Mary were married in1759
Posted by Jennifer Saltmarsh at 09/07/2012 14:59
I have a photocopy of part of 2 pages of the catalogue given to me over twenty years ago by English migrants to Australia no year readable but first day Tues 15th June jewellery,silver,plate,pictures,library of books. Second day Wed 16thJune china,glass,brass,copper and other metalwork,furnishings of the reception rooms and domestic offices and third day Thurs 17th june Furnishings of Two staff wings,bedrooms,main landing, corridor and staircase;ornamental and ancillary items, fishing tackle and firearms,shotguns and antique pistols and outside items. I'm sure they told me early to mid 70's
Posted by anoumouse at 21/07/2012 18:07
who used to own saltmarsh and could the property be passed down to family members (me as i am family acording to my mum and all her family??????????????????????????)
Posted by anonumose at 21/07/2012 18:12
my mothers grand father used to own saltmarshe hall i wish i had lived there it lo0oks very grand and beautiful.
Posted by Paul Elmhirst at 23/10/2012 20:34
My grandfather William Heaton Elmhirst (who I remember) was a curate who lived at the vicarage at Laxton at the end of the 19th Century. He had 8 sons (my Dad was No 8 so got the middle name of Octavius) followed by one daughter. As a result my grandmother was known as 'the hardy annual'. My oldest uncle remembered Colonel Saltmarshe leading the procession of torchbearers to light the beacon on the banks of the Humber for Queen Victoria's Jubilee in 1897. I recently tracked down 70 letters which the 8 brothers and their sister had written as a round robin during the First World War. It is called 'The Family Budget'. Let me know if you want a copy. One was killed on the Somme and one was killed at Gallipoli. One became an Air Marshal in the 2nd World War.
Posted by Susan Butler at 28/10/2012 14:06
Hello Paul, the information about your family is really interesting. I live at near Laxton and am also a local historian and teacher. I knew of your Elmhirst family connection with Laxton and would be very pleased to have a copy of the letters you mention. If I can help you with information do get in touch.

susanebutler@btinternet.com
Posted by Les Waby at 28/11/2012 11:54
Saltmarshe Hall is a grade 11*listed building --- see full listing on imagesofengland.org.uk--- I.D. number 165019. I was one of 200 volunteer photographers who took 270,000 photos of listed buildings"as at" the Millenium.
Posted by Pam at 05/08/2013 19:10
@anonumouse - if your mother's family owned Saltmarshe Hall, you'll have to share it with me as my mother was a Saltmarshe. ;-)
I doubt your grandfather owned it, as the last owner, Colonel Saltmarshe died childless in the early 70's.
Posted by terri-louise at 15/03/2015 22:46
Hi im looking for imformation on saltmarsh hall and of phillip saltmarsh born 1853. Im trying to find the name of his wife and children and also for imformation on the servents that lived and worked there. If anyone can help me please can you email me at terri1687@googlemail.com
Posted by Darren Cooling at 03/05/2015 20:39
Hi ,
I,m looking for info on a young stable boy who apparently worked at Saltmarshe around 1900-1910.
His name was Edward Fisher.
Posted by Corby Bunting at 01/10/2017 16:41
I have just returned from a wonderful holiday spent at Bank Hall Farm Cottages Not only was it a learning curve into modern day farming . But a history lesson where I went back in time and found out so much that I did not know The Farm house was originally called The Salmon House Due to the Salmon fishing industry which ended when the river became polluted and so much more The hosts are the Dale family wh o made our time there a memorable one
Posted by Dave at 02/07/2018 22:48
Hi, I recently found out my ancestors Mr Urias Pratt was head keeper at Saltmarshe Hall and the the last Miller 1882. If you or any one knows of any information about him I would be grateful to hear from you.

Best regards
Dave Saunders
Posted by Corby Bunting at 05/07/2018 07:52
Hello Dave My maternal roots were from Asselby Where I know of the mill which was there and the miller. Who also had a mill at Howden Dyke.
I believe Your ancestor arrived from outside of the area The only graves in the Minster burial ground with the name Pratt were
Robert who died in 1843 aged20
Anne who died in 1873 aged 57
Eliza who died in 1878 aged 56
There was one who died at Garforth
When he was a miller. where did he work?
Good luck with your quest

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